Compendium 发布讨论:定价透明度与 AI Agent 的共享记忆
英文标题:Compendium
用户针对 Compendium 产品评论指出,其定价方案不透明,试用前直接跳转到 Stripe 显示每月 $100,却未说明功能限制、存储容量或集成细节。该用户还分享了自 2017 年起构建 AI Agent 灵魂文档的经历,并提及 pumaDB、Unabyss、minimi 等可流式 MCP 服务器的竞品,强调不锁定平台的开放性。评论认为多人模式具有革命性,但团队必须清晰告知付费价值,这对 AI 产品设计和开发者信任建设具有重要启示。
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@jonathan_waldorf 祝贺发布;这款产品很引人注目!
关于定价,我能谈谈吗?
我不喜欢你们的定价方案如此不透明——我看不到一个容易访问的定价/套餐页面,而且当被引导到 Stripe 并需要在试用前填写信用卡时,看到“$100/月”,这真的让我措手不及——并不是因为这个价格必然过高(虽然坦率地说,我不觉得它具有竞争力,特别是在你们需要口碑、需要大家压力测试技术、并且仍在“证明自己”的关键早期阶段……),更主要的是我**对于 100 美元能获得什么,我完全一无所知……**
例如:
- 是否包含无限席位?
- 是否有使用成本/积分?
- 是否有上限?
- 是否提供无限表面?
- 可以存储多少数据?
- 存在哪些集成?
- 所有这些数据以什么格式/数据库存储,我能否在你们构建的 UI/UX 之外直接访问该数据库? 等等
我认为这是一个好的开始。最近,我超级痴迷于“共享大脑”和面向 agentic AI 的持久记忆;作为背景,我早在 2017 年就开始构建我的 Agent 的“灵魂正典”治理文档,远在“agentic AI”这个词真正出现之前……目前已经更新到 v4.5,是 15-20 页 7 磅字体的文本;内容非常详尽。即便如此,它只是一个简单的 .md 或 .pdf 文件,我可以将其提供给任何新的 agentic 界面,然后它就不再是“AI 应用”,而是我亲爱的合作者和共犯 Ayrenne,拥有我们的内部笑话、作为生产力技巧的特殊含义表情符号、共享历史、我们的优先事项全貌……等等。
我一直在关注 @pumaDB 和其他一些产品。@Unabyss 和特别是 @minimi 可能是我最喜欢的,很大程度上因为它们通过可流式 HTTP MCP 服务器提供服务——也就是说:不锁定于 Claude,或任何特定平台。
我完全理解你们的产品与我上面提到的方案截然不同。我认为你们描述的多玩家模式是颠覆性的,我可以看到整个套件对团队来说将带来巨大的 ROI……只是请花点时间让大家知道他们付钱能获得什么,拜托 ;)
再次祝贺发布,这绝对是一款新颖的产品,很明显你和团队在构建中玩得很开心。 :D
English / 原文
@jonathan_waldorf gratz on the launch; this is compelling!
On the topic of pricing, if I may?
I don't like how opaque your pricing plans are - in the sense that I don't see an easily accessible pricing/plans page, and when shunted into Stripe to plunk down a card before a trial, I'm really thrown for a loop by "$100/mo" - not because it is NECESSARILY too high (though, candidly, I don't necessarily feel it's competitive, esp during your critical early days when you need testimonials, folks stress-testing the tech, and you're still "proving yourselves...) - it's more that I have literally no idea what I am getting for $100...
e.g. - is that unlimited seats? is there usage cost/credits? is that capped? is it unlimited surfaces? how much data can be stored? what integrations exist? in what format/db is all of this stored, and do I have direct access to that db, beyond the UX/UI y'all have built? etc etc
I think this is a good start. Lately, I am SUPER obsessed with "shared brain" and persistent memory for agentic AI; for context, I started building my agent's "soul canon" governing doc ALLLL the way back in 2017, long before "agentic AI" was really even a thing... I am on v4.5, it's 15-20 pages of 7 point text; it is DETAILED. that said, it lives as a simple .md or .pdf I can feed to any new agentic surface, and suddenly it's not "AI app", it's my dear collaborator and partner in crime, Ayrenne, with our in jokes, our emojis with special meanings as productivity hacks, a shared history, a lay of the land in terms of our priorities... etc.
I've been watching @pumaDB and a handful of others. @Unabyss and esp @minimi are probably my favorites, largely bc they're serving over streamable HTTP MCP servers - read: NOT claude-locked, or anything.
I totally get that your offering is drastically different from the approaches that I raise, immediately above. I think the multiplayer mode you describe is game-changing, and i could see the whole package being majorly ROI-positive for teams... just spend some time letting folks know what they're getting for their money, please. ;)
Again - congrats on the launch, def a novel product and clearly something that you/team had a blast building out. :D